Let’s talk about the question that makes everyone squirm: “Why are so many Asian women with white men?”

In this raw and nuanced episode, Michelle MiJung Kim sits down with her longtime friend Christine (a Chinese American woman married to a white man) to unpack the tangled web of desire, race, loneliness, and belonging in interracial relationships—specifically those between Asian women and white men.

From TikTok comment wars and the infamous "Oxford Study" to lived experiences of love, shame, fetishization, and survival, no stone is left unturned. With radical honesty, Michelle shares her own dating history with white men and the uncomfortable questions it forced her to face:

“Am I internalizing racism through who I date?”

“Is love ever just love in a world shaped by white supremacy?”

“And what does it mean to feel seen, held, and understood in an interracial relationship?”

This episode holds space for all the complexities—without flattening anyone’s experience. Whether you’ve been in these relationships, judged them, or questioned your own desires, this conversation invites you to look inward with curiosity and compassion.